Monday, August 25, 2008

Quote of the Day, & some thoughts about it.

"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."

-- Carl Sagan --

To this, I would add... "Everywhere, something incredible is waiting to happen." We are all capable of creating miracles, if only we understood, truly and deeply, that we are One with God. God is all there is, so we are God expressing as individuals. Jesus knew this, he understood it truly and deeply, and that is why he was able to manifest the miracles he did. If Jesus was here today I truly believe he would tell you this too, and he would tell us all that he is no better than you or I, that we are all equal, that we are all One!

Maybe it's even more correct to say "Everywhere, something incredible is happening, right now, and It wants you to know It."


bv said...

I love the idea of ONE


Great thoughts on a insightful quote!

Barbara H. said...

I came here because I had seen reference to the Bridging the Gap challenge and I wanted to check it out, and I saw this quote. I could not disagree more strongly with the thought that "Jesus is no better than you or I" -- He is the "only begotten" Son of God, the only person ever who lived a holy and sinless life. The Holy Spirit glorifies Him; in Revelation He is crowned King of Kings and Lord of lords. We're to worship Him -- so we can hardly be His equals.

God makes us His children when we believe on Christ, and we're called His heirs and brethren, but that's still different. In some Bible versions, "only begotten" is rendered "only one of His kind." He makes us His children -- He directs and empowers us -- but He doesn't make us God. Over and over in Scripture He is pointed to as the only God.

I apologize if I have misunderstood what you were saying. :-)

Marilyn said...

I love Carl Sagan.

God Bless.

Bouncer said...

first time I have read the idea of this kind of oneness...

I mean God and humans all being weighted on same stand. Simple great..

Nice innovative idea..

Alice said...

bv - Thanks for stopping by and leaving your words.

Barbara H. – It was not my intent to upset you with my beliefs, though it appears I’ve done just that.

Jesus said: Truly, truly I say to you, he who believes in me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do. (John 14:12)

Do you think Jesus would say such a thing if he thought himself superior to us? Or us inferior to him? I don’t think so. So, if Jesus didn’t think himself superior or us inferior, then he could only have thought us equals. If he though himself no better than others, what gives any of us the right to think he was?

God created Jesus… and God created everything that was, is, or ever will be. I am a creation of God, you are a creation of God. Do you say that God created us inferior to anything else He created? I believe that God created everything in the perfection that He is, all of us One with Him. God is in, around and through all His creations. God is, after all, infinite. Right? Right. Okay… so where do you think infinite starts? Where does it stop? There is no beginning and no end to the Alpha and the Omega… no beginning and no end to that which we call God. Therefore, each one of us, from Jesus on down, to the smallest insect and beyond, is God, expressing itself as that.

This of course, is a simplified version of God’s Truth, and there is now way I could put it all into an email. It’s not meant to be all known in one place. I know in my heart and my every cell that this is the Truth. I do not argue it as I do not believe that the Truth needs to be argued, it just needs to be known. I know it.

Now, all of this being said, I note you stated that you came to see BRIDGING THE GAP, yet you did not enter as yet. I do hope that our difference in beliefs will not be enough to stop you from joining in the fun. I would like to see you join in and post your bridge photos, bridging the gap between people around the world. Yes, we have our differences, and obviously we both love God/Jesus… so we both have common ground as well.

Marilyn – he does seem to have some good quotes, lol. Thanks for the visit, and God Bless you too.

Barbara H. said...

Hi Alice,

Thanks for responding. I wasn't upset so much as shocked that anyone would believe things so adamantly opposed to what the Bible has to say.

The verse that you quoted about our doing greater works than He did has nothing to do with inferiority or superiority. I think He was referring to the type of things that happened in the book of Acts where 3,000 at a time believe on Him through Peter's preaching, something that did not happen with His own preaching as far as we know. That doesn't mean Peter was better than Jesus -- Jesus was the one he was preaching about after all. John 15 says we can do nothing without Him; Phil. 4:13 says we can do all things through Him who strengthens us. That's certainly not equality.

I did a study once on what Jesus claimed about Himself and posted the results here. Most of those are not claims that any of us could make, and especially not all of them together.

The Bible makes a distinction between creature and Creator: "Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen."

Philippians 2:9-11 say, "Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." No where is anything like that said of us. All throughout Scripture is testimony of the uniqueness and Deity of Christ. Nowhere is there any inference that we are God.

John 1:1-4 says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men." God did not create Jesus: Jesus is as eternal as the Father is and created all things. He "became flesh" (verse 14: "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth") when He walked on the earth but He existed long before that.

Colossians 1:16-20 says of Him, "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven."

The Bible says of us, on the other hand:

"But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away." Isaiah 64:6.

"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." Romans 3:23.

And I could go on and on.

It's hard sometimes to adequately convey tone of voice in print, but I am not meaning to sound at all upset, hostile, or condescending, and I don't mean to offend you. I'm just trying to present the clear and simple truth of the Bible. Jesus said in John 14:6, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." We are not all way, truth, and life: only He is. We are not part of God -- we're separated from Him because of our sin and can only come to Him through Christ.

Alice - I Was Born2Cree8 said...

Barbara - I'm for sure not offended in any way. We all have the right to believe what we believe in our hearts to be true. It's okay that we have different beliefs.

I know that your belief in Duality has been more popular than my belief in Unity, and that's okay. I also know that people are becoming more enlightened and better understanding what the true meanings of the Bible are, therefore, more are coming to know and believe in Unity... Oneness. That God is All Powerful and all there is. It is a gradual thing, one that is increasing in numbers and increasing in speed. I believe that this is because it is God's will that we open up and better understand.

I could argue all of what you say, but I won't. I know what in my heart its true and that is what is important to me. No matter how much we could argue it (good naturedly of course), I doubt I could change what you believe in your heart... and I KNOW you can't change what I know in mine. I could never turn my back on God, now that we have a personal relationship, so to speak.

Blessings to you, Barbara.